Ep14: Sadie Dupuis (Sad13 / Speedy Ortiz) on going into a rabbithole

by Laura Kidd

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Welcome to my conversation with Sadie Dupuis, recorded on 29th July 2020. Keep scrolling down for links to everything we discussed in this episode and pre-order her new album “Haunted Painting” now.

[Content warning: friendly swearing present.]

In this conversation, we discuss:

• producing and playing your own music – the adventure of going into a rabbithole as a one-person band and taking credit for your work
• music or lyrics first? Is there a *right* way to write?
• how to deal with chronic pain on the road for 10 months of the year
• how nomadic childhoods have helped us both in our chosen careers
• our thoughts on the future of live performances in the UK and the US
• the importance of delegation – Sadie gives me some much-needed tips!
• weight liftin’ for gear shiftin’ – how to stay healthy on tour in body and mind

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Explore Sadie’s work:

• New album “Haunted Painting” is out on 25th September 2020.
• The Wax Nine poetry journal is available online here, with submissions and donations welcome.
• The latest Speedy Ortiz album “Twerp Verse” is available here.

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Sadie Recommends: “Mustang” by Bartees Strange, Chicago band Ganser, new mixtape “Free I.H: This Is Not The One You’ve Been Waiting For” by Illuminati Hotties and rapper Backxwash.

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Other things we talked about:

Sadie talks about the great work Girls Rock programmes do around the world. You can find your local camp via this handy website.

I mention the effect Cat Power’s album “What Would The Community Think?” had on me as a home recordist, and Sadie talks about getting into Elliott Smith, Bright Eyes, Mirah and Cat Power because of their lo fi recordings of awesome songs.

I mention the Pitchfork interview with Bjork where she opened up about being denied credit for her own music for a decade. Read it here.

Sadie mentions her friend Zoë Brecher’s music project Hush Puppy and talks about some great advice she got from Stephen Malkmus.

I reference Creative Pep Talk episode #283 featuring Jamie Drake (long, but highly recommended). I talk about the information-action ratio, which I first heard about when recording my podcast episode with Emma Pollock. Just recently I’ve been reading “Amusing Ourselves To Death” by Neil Postman which goes into this idea in more detail.

Sadie talks enthusiastically about her custom album tea blend, created by Philly-based Craft Tea. “Haunted Breakfast” is available now when you pre-order her new album.

At the end of the chat we talk about how great Computer Magic is.

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About Sadie Dupuis

For nearly a decade, poet and multi-instrumentalist producer Sadie Dupuis has been celebrated for her literary lyrics, accomplished guitar playing, and embodied ethos of empowerment, whether with rock band Speedy Ortiz or the pop-oriented solo project Sad13, which debuted in 2016 with Lizzo co-feature “Basement Queens.”

Self-produced debut album “Slugger” was released that same year, and followup “Haunted Painting” will be released on 25th September 2020.

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